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Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 11:37 AM
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Majid Ansari
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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 1:46 PM
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Sad isn't it? I still cannot fathom what made him utter such a brazen comment? Does he drink? More surprising is the reaction of pakistani people-a muted silence. Tell me, are you folks so scared of him? Can't you come out on the streets and protest and make his life miserable?

Strange nation!

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Pursoo Gondal
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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 1:50 PM
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Well,if the President so much calculating in attitudes that he is full of scornful criticism of the females who fall prey to injustice and face the most disgracefully painful acts of rape,and bases his disgust on the bad name these women could earn in the outside world for the whole of the country,why does he not mind what image Pakistan was displayoing with a uniformed man taking over everything?Does he think that his act of sending home the elected Parliament,and nurturing cronies who are but always loyal to the governing elite depicts a good face of pakistan in the outside world?
If he is so much `pehley Pakistan` theme,then he should better quit and himself over to the people for his trial for an act of high treason...the act of denting the constitution,and let the world glorify Pakistan by saying the country is full of justice...even the President has been tried and hanged.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 1:58 PM
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"women of Pakistan 'get' raped to travel abroad and make money?"

I was stunned at the crudeness of Mr. Musharraf's bazaari remarks coming out of the mouth of him as a 'Head' (more like the rear) of a State -- it shows his shaaista nastaaleeque mother did not succeed in imbuing in her na-shaaista Pallo mian -- the respect and the dignity of her own gender...

....the man is a male chauvinist pig of the worst kind -- who arrests the rape victims -- frees and protects the rapists in Pakistan...

...and then brags about his deeds as minmizer of one of the most most serious crimes in the world -- flippantly before the world media...

....now that he stands condemned before the horrified world he would like to wriggle out of his own trashy pronouncements...by uttering another white lie -- that he did not say that...

....but everything is on tape -- and the quote was verbatim......

as it turns out to be -- it is Mr. Musharraf himself (NOT Mukhtaran Mai or Dr. Shazia) who has again and again Maligned and Soiled the IMAGE of Pakistan -- as a country governed by such an insensitive, boorish, misogynous, woman-disrespecting Male, -- who really never deserved to be the President of such a great country...of such great women as Fatima Jinnah, Asma Jahangir and million others.

Mr. Musharraf MUST do PENANCE for demeaning and insulting the women of Pakistan -- and for aggrandizing the male RAPIST...

He MUST render an unconditional public APOLOGY to the women of Pakistan in general and to the rape victim women of Pakistan in particular....

......Musharraf must work for making stricter laws -- and ENFORCING them -- against the MALE RAPISTS of his country -- whether civilian or of the Army Origin -- to punish the perpetrators of this heinous CRIME -- as vigorously as it is done in all civilized countries.....

I am glad Wajid Shamsulhasan wrote this -- much needed to be written -- timely column -- so forcefully and so indignantly....

Pakistan will be waiting for Mr. Mushrraf's apology....

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 4:31 PM
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"while attending the U.N. General Assembly. Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin formally protested the reported remarks in a meeting with Musharraf on the sidelines of the U.N. gathering.

"Let me say with total sincerity that I never said that and it has been misquoted," Musharraf told the women's group. "These are not my words and I would go to the extent of saying I am not so silly and stupid to make comments of this sort."(WP)

yes you are...you were "so silly and supid" to hijack an elected civilian government at gunpoint -- and you are "so silly and stupid to make comments of this sort".....as well.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 5:01 PM
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Shame on the General and woe on him!

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 7:55 PM
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Just a few days earlier, I saw a chest thumping posting by DC Sheikh which essentially said - look, Pakistan has moved from 140s to 130s in Human Development Index (not to mention it is way below many countries including India and that rate of movement to be its singular achievement in recent decades). That self styled congratulatory celebration had not died down when came the great military dictator of his fatherland who implied that the sisters and mothers who leave Pakistan to protect their honor and respect are nothing but prostitutes... Sounds like open season in Pakistan- first military men rape women (recall Dr, Shazia), then when they try to escape to protect themselves, they are called prostitutes to make it open season for all military men... What sickness!!!

If this what is taught in Pakistani Military Academy (forget Madrassas for the time being), it is time for all its graduates to put black boot polish on their face out of shame.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 7:58 PM
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Dear Mr. Paki to the core:
I must agree with you that we Indians have more serious problems of our own and it would be much better if we focused on cleaning up our own house instead of gloting over Pakistan's problems and using every oppurtunity to make sarcastic remarks.

As you pointed out, ethnic clinzing and prostitution are some of India's major problems, not to mention poverty on a massive scale. It's very shameful that our elites are busy celebrating slogans like 'India shining' while the deprived are committing suicides.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 8:12 PM
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Digisha post 9:
Let the Pakistanis sort out their own mess and lets concentrate on our own problems.

Talking of rape and prostitution, there is plenty of that in India as well. Some of that is even sanctioned by Hinduism i.e the devadasi system. If we are talking about the involvement of state and military in rape, the record of our military in Kashmir should make all of us hang our heads in shame. In Pakistan there is loud condemnation from the media and civil society for Musharaf's remarks. In India, we try not to speak about devadasis and the rapes by our soldiers.

With this difference (Pakistanis at least raising their voices more than ever before and Indians still in denial), it is possible that Pakistanis might one day overcome their problems, and our taunts on this forum might come back to haunt us.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 8:40 PM
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It is a shame that such issues still exist in this day and age, and we are still living in stoneage. It does not matter where in the world such atrocities happen, it is sad that even today in this day and age, women, minorities etc are still subjected to such terrrosim. This is terrrorism for those who experience it. The likes of Musharraf have the audacity to make such somments which puts Pakistanis to shame. It is Musharraf that has brought about real shame on us and not the victims.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 8:54 PM
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Mr. Aslam Pervaiz post no 12:

Very true that these atrocities are shameful no matter where they happen. But what adds to my pain is that some of my fellow Indians take pleasure in such news coming out of Pakistan and repeatedly taunt the Pakistanis on these forums. Anyway, I wish you Pakistanis the best of luck in your fight against this evil.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 18, 2005 11:56 PM
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This psychomaniac nutcase doesn't even what he is talking about. I am sure he must be drunk or taking marijuana to keep his faith rolling on. No wonder his son and brother got US visa the same way. Go Musharaf go.... your enlightened islam really rocks!

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 19, 2005 12:19 AM
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Musharraf was not misquoted: Washington Post

LAHORE: Washington Post has said that President General Pervez Musharraf’s interview was published verbatim and in its true context, BBC radio reported on Sunday.

Washington Post reporter Glenn Kessels, who interviewed Musharraf, told BBC that he had recorded the interview and published it verbatim. He said that Musharraf’s interview was published in the real context and his views about women were not displayed prominently, it reported.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 19, 2005 1:51 AM
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As it look we are living in middle age where subjects were ofreced to accept will of ruler, nomatter whether he was right or wrong. General Musharraf being head of Islamic state should have avoided to give sarcastic remarks which created panic and invited human rights acvitists to launch ceaseless capmpaign against him. Chasity of woman irrespective of any class of society is sacred and it is our duty to support and provide legal as well medical supoport to get her from stage of trauma. It is better that president should seek apology on his irrational and provoked statemtments.

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Re: Musharraf and the Business of Getting Raped Posted: Sep 19, 2005 2:34 AM
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The comments made by Prez.Musharaff are most shameful from a so-called Head of a State. May be he doesnt know the meaning of his words. It is just short of telling that all Pakistani women are prostitutes and all Pakistani public are bastards. It is obvious that he does not consider him and his family in the league because he is the only true patriot left in the country and other are the enemies of the nation.

Another fantastic statement we have read in todays newpapers that in one of the conferences he called someone in the audience as his enemy and of Pakistan. Well done Sir, now you and only you represent Pakistan and the general public has become RAW-agents.

How can such a man who has utter disregard for his own people can stand in front of the world leaders at the UN and represent his country. Even a street dog of Pakistan will command more respect than him.

Prez.Musharaff if neither a General or a Dictator now-- he is simply a Besharam.

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