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AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 21, 2005 8:11 PM
 
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daud masud
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 21, 2005 10:04 PM
 
USE CORRECT WORD SUSPECTS INSTEAD ACCUSED

MR Siddique has narrated the facts dated 21st May,mentioning the arrest of ZEESHAN and confirmation of bail of remaing two suspect (NOMINATED BY DR AFTAB FATHER OF ASSAD ).

The remaing contents are biased and needs correction.

HIS main points for proving Murder is based on the assumptions are

1.Cover up by AKU.
2.Offering bribe to one police man by Zeeshan .
3.Sending of medical report by AKU to London without approval/knowledge of police.
4. Selling of mobile phone .

5.Mention of a girl involvement........so on

My point is

MR SIDDIQI has all the rights to assume and persume but before he lables Three Accused,he should wait for the decesion of the court.
The Fact is Thta ASSAD's Father DR Aftab has given the three names as suspects after couple of weeks,but still he has to provide the proof.
MR SIDDIQI has narrated the story and facts in a biased manner,by considering that Zeeshan and others are declared
Accused by the court.
Secondly i strongly belive that AKU has no solid reasons to cover up and to give incorrect reports.
WE know ,about the creditability of Pakistani Labs,...NO explanation is needed.

Remaining other points ,which are only assumptions ,let the court decide .

I being a neutral person ,reading the contents of comments and info on web can suggest to all the concern including Asad's family that

WE should not drag and involve the innocents without any solid proofs.

We should be 200 % sure that these boys are involved in the murder,otherwise i am sure DR Aftab and family will be further tortured by their concious at a later stage of life.

I strongly feel ,if they are involved in the murder then either they should be punished as per Law .Better MR SIDDIQI wait till the decesion and be neutral and honest.

May Allah bless ASAD and give courage to his family to bear his untimely LOSS

#3
Saeed Lodhi
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Registered: Mar, 2005


Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 22, 2005 5:04 AM
 
Mr. Masud,

I beleive that there are no assumsption in the aricle and the facts are being quoted here .....

We all know about the credibility of our Police and how the poeple try to hush up things when someone of a Stature is involved in a crime ......

SAT has done a very good job in exposing AKU for Obstructing the justice, which in itself is a crime in other countries ..... I dont know weather its applicable in Pakistan or not.

#4
Dr Alvi
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 22, 2005 6:21 AM
 
This is the worst piece of yellow journalism and sleazy,tabloid mentality that I have seen masquerading as lo and behold .....investigative journalism.

Just who exactly is this MA Siddiqui character- seems he has worked all his life for the 2 penny evening urdu newpapers; has he gotten a crash course in 'ungrezee rightin' to write for Sun.

The article is full of insinuations, innuendoes, catch phrases.....the only thing it lacks is accuracy and authenticity.

The role of police doesn't need any explanation- they can do anything in Pakistan.

And who exactly is this freakin' 'group of doctors from Washington', what gives that dubious group the license of moral policing and moral superiority...what do they do in life, do they have a name, do they drive cabs, fill gas or do they sit at home and their daughters bring them money dough after 'moonlighting'.

I am a AKU graduate, lived and worked there....granted that AKU is not a monastery where incorruptible rich brats go to learn the good flavours of life while studying medicine .......but it seems South Asia Tribune is just a rebel without a cause......

Just because it has never been proven in the court of law that MA Siddiqui's daughter or mother is NOT a slut ....doesnt mean that we publish an article on South Asia Tribune that MA siddiqui's female relatives are alledged whores..

I hate to use this foul language but respectfully I am just sick of this whole drama about AKU...these are students and somebody's sons you are talking about here....nobody gives anyone any right to put slander on anyone's life,career and future.

Parents often go into denial...is it possible the guy who commited suicide was indeed depressed or taking drugs. Suicide is a common complication of depression and drugs go together with suicide....depression is very rampant and undiagnosed among AKU medical students because of the stress of studies.

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Viqar A. Minai
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 22, 2005 10:49 AM
 
> And who exactly is this freakin' 'group of doctors
> from Washington', what gives that dubious group the
> license of moral policing and moral
> superiority...what do they do in life, do they have a
> name, do they drive cabs, fill gas or do they sit at
> home and their daughters bring them money dough after
> 'moonlighting'.

Dr. Sahib,While I can understand your anger, speculating
about someone's daughter, in the fashion you have, is
way below the belt.

I hope you would reconsider your words.

#6
havaldar
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 22, 2005 11:24 AM
 
Mr Alvi:

Your attitude reflects the kind of school AKU is and what you have learned there. You call yourself a doctor. You should be ashamed of yoursef, your education and your med degree. Just by loading books on the donkey is not going to make him civilized or educated and you are no different than that. Go and get some manners and be civilized.

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umal
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 22, 2005 12:45 PM
 
This story from the very beginning has drawn more than one controversial statement or feeling. Being a student at the Aga khan university i will have to agree with Dr alvi's comments. Agreed, i would not exactly use the words he used but his underlying message is very pertinent.
The Sa tribune's handling of this entire TRAGEDY has been an example of the most irresponsible piece of journalism i have ever had the misfortune to read.
The false accusations that have been made by this tribune against the university seem more politicised than anything else. The tribune obviously had a preconcieved notion in their heads and have proceeded to print biased , un proven , hollow articles with frank lies in them ever since, in order to fit in with that preconcieved story..
Lets face it.... drugs is a problem in every university privliged or other wise all over the country..
We as a society are responsible for it getting out of hand.. parents are in continual denial about their childrens involvement, institutes simply arent doing enough and everybody else dosent seem to care enough until something like this happens.
There is absolutely no point in dragging this unfortunate event and turning it into something as sinister as murder just in order to get a "juicy story". A tragedy happened.. A young boy died and so far as we know until proven other wise( which it has not) of drugs. Three other students are now facing a trial presumedly for thier involvement in that death...these boys are also someones sons.. they also had dreams and ambitions and for all we know are guilty of nothing else other than the possesion of drugs....
How can we as people ignore the fact that a completely innocent boy ( i say innocent because that is what one is until proven guilty, which has not been done) is now in jail for a crime he did not commit..
How is anybody sure of their guilt.. If their guilt is indeed based on the so called "statements" the SA tribune has brought forth than all parties involved need to seriously reconsider their stance...
May Allah Bless Ado.. Our thoughts and prayers will always be with him..but at the same time we cannot forget the friends he left behind.

#8
Viqar A. Minai
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From: Virginia, USA
Registered: Jun, 2003


Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 22, 2005 1:36 PM
 
> The Sa tribune's handling of this entire TRAGEDY has
> been an example of the most irresponsible piece of
> journalism i have ever had the misfortune to read.
> The false accusations that have been made by this
> tribune against the university seem more politicised
> than anything else.

It is hard to say whether the accusations are necessarily
false; only a complete and objective investigation will uncover the truth which is likely to be sordid no matter what it turns out to be.

However, the accusations are definitely very speculative
and way below the standards of responsible journalism.

I am perhaps in a minority of one in this forum who also
feels that SAT thrives on sensationalism. But any forum
is what its participants make of it. Unfortunatley it
seems that this sensationalism, precisely, has many
takers.

#9
manya
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 22, 2005 11:48 PM
 
after getting an innocent boy arrest did the deseases father get to sleep better at night????........did he get to heave sign of relief???? did he get back his son???? i have one question to ask him after making innocent go through so much will he be able to live life in peace.....he is talking about revenge right now but does not have the heart to bear the truth that his son too made mistake ..he did use drugs..... 3 innocent boys ....lives of three families are being shattered and to add more pain to injury SAT is doing wonderful job. being such reputed newspaper they didnt even dig out the real truth ........just feeding one side of story..
anyway GOD is there and one day INSHALLAH it will be proved that they are all innocent.....hope that day u feel the guilty of trying to ruin life of innocent families not just 3 boys.....have you gone to see the agony of the parents and mothers of those boys going through...for them every single min bring pain coz of you ppl....SAT..........may GOD bless ADO soul....

#10
Hasan Shakoor
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Registered: May, 2005


Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 23, 2005 10:36 AM
 
I would tend to agree with Dr. Alvi......M.A Siddiqi is engaged in what can only be labelled extremely irresponsible journalism. A good journalist, sir is not one who comes up with the most sensational story. It is quite obvious that you have not taken the time to exam the facts and present them in an UNBIASED manner. I can understand the anger and frustration of the family of the deceased, but to blame the educational institution for not doing its job, while it is quite obvious that the law enforcement agencies have completely messed up this investigation is highly inapropriate and very unfair. Just because Mr. Siddiqi and others feel someone is guilty of a crime doesn't mean that AKU is obligated to expel the students involved or take any action what-so-ever. Let me also say , sir, that being a former student of AKU, I can tell you quite categorically that the level of discipline there is unparalleled in any other academic center in out country. I suggest you not try to sling mud at one of the only well functioning academic institutions in our country. Irresponsible reporting such as the type Mr. Siddiqi is engaged in has , in my mind atleast, convinced me the the SA Tribune is nothing but a glossy rag not worthy of any serious reading.

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Gandalf
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 23, 2005 1:04 PM
 
Post 4

do they sit at home and their daughters bring them money dough after 'moonlighting'.

MA Siddiqui's daughter or mother is NOT a slut

MA siddiqui's female relatives are alledged whores..

I am a AKU graduate

I am just sick


Say no more...

#12
Zarak Khan
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From: USA
Registered: Oct, 2003


Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 24, 2005 1:45 AM
 
Post 11

good quotes. I guess MA Siddiqui got a dose of his own medicine.

I won't say anymore....

#13
suki
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From: khi
Registered: May, 2005


Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 24, 2005 4:21 PM
 
i really dont understand you people...how many of you actually know what happened that night..how many of you ever cared, or do to date about assad aftab...how many of you even knew him...how many of you know these boys you OH SO CASUALLY call 'murderers'...do you have any idea what sort of sin it is to just BLINDLY accuse without substantial evidence...please do yourselves and the world a favor and look up the word in the dictionary and learn to use it correctly in the future...also expand your vocabulary...please dont repeat already stated misconceptions in new articals...its redundant, and incorrect and inappropriate...also please..all those who have the urge to write into this forum...please think before you write, dont just cut and paste things intelligent people with brains and feelings write and mutilate their meaning...what Dr alvi wrote may have been vulgar but what you write is NOTHING better..its ridiculous...baseless...unnessasarily painful..dont point fingers at institutions you have no background information about keep in mind the fact that there is a good reason its such a well reputed institution...one of the best...if you dont know what youre talkin about...save it..we dont want to hear it.

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daud masud
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Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 25, 2005 12:02 AM
 
Cover up by police by Hiding/misrepresenting facts to Court

The ADDL Session Judge was informed on 23/05/2005 that

Police has hiddened the orignal statements recorded by the police investigation team ,engaged for the first 7-8 months.
The new Investigation team appointd on the request of Deceased parents has intentially ,on malafied grounds did not attach the orignal (First statemenst) of all students with the interim chalan.
zeeshan bail has been denied by the court ,as the police submitted chalan with the only those documents,which were in their favour(DEceased parents).
It shows Police has been tipped by the Deceasead parents to hide the documents,which goes against Assad (Deceased).

The court has been informed that

1. On the search of ASSAD (DECEASED ) room ,GIRDHA (DRUG) was also recoverd from his computer table.Showing he was addict to Drugs and was keeping with him always.
2 Assad failed in exam 2 nd prfessional and when he passed later on he celebrated the party by himself buying the Cocane from the market .Last call to drug seller on his mobile record confirms that he called at 8.35 pm

after these disclosures by the Zeeshan lawer shows taht Assad(Deceased) was not a outstanding student but was addict to drugs.
on top New police investigation team is also covering the facts............where it will lead?

Readers will agree that it is neither in Deceased parents intrest nor will benifit them in draging other students ,to cover up the unfortunate death .

I suggest parents of all the students 9 or 10 should approach the deceased parents and should ask for forgiveness(irrespective ,of the case facts).We know the creditibilties of PAK police ,Lab reports ........others,so
better options of forgiveness may be adopted and the parents of all students should jointly request the Deceased parents in a proper manner

#15
suki
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Posts: 3
From: khi
Registered: May, 2005


Re: AKU in a Soup After Student is Arrested for Murder Posted: May 25, 2005 7:45 AM
 
Mr daud...i could not agree with you more...this is unnessasary..un called for and avoidable and could hurt boys with a future for no reason...an agreement should be reached...inshallah

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