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Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 1:34 PM
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Jawaid Khan
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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 3:18 PM
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The MMA or for that matter all the opposition parties of Pakistan have done nothing for the country except eat up all the Finances.

These opposition parties with the exception of Imran Khan do not care less about Pakistan they only care about themselves.

These strikes serve no purpose except disturbances which hamper the growth of Pakistan

We need a Kamal Attaturk in Pakistan to get rid of these Anti Pakistan forces

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 3:38 PM
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Deleted: Pl comment on the subject not the writer

[Edited by: admin on Sep 5, 2005 7:13 PM]

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 3:40 PM
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MMA & all other opposition hotch potch is a bunch of crooks, hypocrites, opportunists, double-standard and self-centered people...........just power-hungry........

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 4:22 PM
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Would it not be advisable to HIRE a PRESIDENT like PM Shaukat Aziz ?
Our Politicians are Corrupt . We all know , OUR TOP Army Generals are Corrupt but General Musharraf is encourging his Top Army Generals of GHQ , like General Ahsan Saleem Hyat , Vice Chief of Army staff & Lt.General Tariq Aziz , Chief of Army Staff , GHQ , RAWALPINDI to introduce and encourage this CORRUPTION CULTURE in Pakistan Army at MID-LEVEl-OFFICIALS which is now-a-days going through a period of TRANSITION from Noble Mid-Level-Army Officials to Corrupt Mid-Level-Army Officials to MAKE quick money
As we have read different Press-Articles , TOP Army GENERALS are in HURRY to Buy
LOW GRADE , Sub-STANDATRD equipment .

Hire the President . Hire the Prime Minister & Hire all the Ministers . Give them a TASK ,
JOB definitions and Targets for which each Member / Minister must Quarterly explain in
The National Assembly .

Any one , not performing well must be dismissed- part of the Contract . any one involve directly or Indirectly in the corruption must be Punished in Pakistan and / or outside Pakistan .

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 4:59 PM
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It is a good news.no doubt that politicians are corrupt.but why?.answer is simple, lack of consisent democratic process----the gold stadard.our next door india is doing a great in all fields due to pure democratic set up and a law abiding miliary.the present corruption free culture in 1st world is not from birth but as a result of continuous democratic process and not as a result of any kamal atta turk model.

We as a nation should rcognise that or first priority is to get rid of this fake president and retired general and pledge not to let any more ghq king to conqure islamabad.it is a time for us to choose between the military rule or country.as these two can not go hand in hand and militry rule always erodes nation foundation.

Gen.zia provided land for American sponserd jihad and turn a deaf ear to ther people's opinon. now 25 years later another general is going on 180 degree.in fact these dictators make all the plicies that suite best to prolong their tenure.

So if we want to have a good,honest loyal lot of politicians the only and anly way is a consistent democratic process with out any role of GHQ.

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 7:18 PM
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And Mr Shafiq Khan, Politicians are power-hungry, that is their profession the world over, so nothing new about it but, who are the Generals, power-hungry plunderers with guns who would blast off any other competitor.
In my view the choice is to either to get laid by professionals who would at least know what they are doing or brute savages who would not only rape you but in the process kill you as well. Pick your choice.

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 7:25 PM
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Great Post #7. The world over civilised people pick the politicians. If people like Shafiq Khan want the others, they should move to Pakistan instead of Canada where they cant have what they want and plead.

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 5, 2005 11:40 PM
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der Ayad drust ayed -- why it took you so long -- good that MMA has joined also -- hopefully this time for real -- after being spurned and in fact kicked out by their secret lover -- Mr. Mashooque Musharraf -- the Hirsutes have come running back to CRY on ARD shoulders...

good to have them with the ARD -- but be careful of these Almunafeqeens -- keep an eye on their beards...

...don't touch their Hisba crap even with a ten foot pole...

and don't let the Hirsute change the subject with their diversionary sharia antics....keep them on tight leash....don't let them run AGAIN after the Marathon Running Women...to bite their heels -- right in the middle of this struggle against the dictatorship...

and lots of lots of good luck on Spetember 9th.....

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 6, 2005 1:05 AM
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About the Mullas / MMA / and self styled Ulema's

Benazir's daddy said at least once said it right : Mullas are condoms, you throw them away after use" - This is the status of the multi alphabet (ARD, MMA, PPP, PML-N, PML-C, JUI etc alliance) alliance.

Respectfully submitted
Fummo

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 6, 2005 4:25 AM
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While Musharraf and the politicians are busy with their ping pong and trying to outwit / outdo each other; vast tracts of Pushtoon and Balauch homelands are groaning under the brutal occapution of Pakistani Army.

Dr Niazi is right in asserting a 3-way disconnect between the various strata of Pakistan Army. JCO's and Junior Officers are amongst the most disaffected; they just dont want to be part of it; they dont want to kill and maim their fellow citizens to enable their "Star-officers" to score and spin in cash. The green unifrom has emerged as a symbol of hatred in Waziristan, Khyber, Mohmand and Bugti areas. The lower ranks try their best not to be seen associating themselves too closely with occupation. On certain occasions they are very vocal about their digust and anger at what they are made to do. Their dilemma is actually much worse than what is faced by the Indian Army of occupation in Kashmir because: (a) They mostly have an ethnic and religeous kinship with Pushtoons (b) the functional command is often in the hands of small time FBI "Advisors".

Perhaps in a few weeks or months the Pak Army will be called on to "engage" civillains to protect Musharraf junta. It would be interesting to see if the Army rank and file can maintain the same level of discipline as demosntarted by Genetal Dyer's Gurkhas during the Jalliyanwala Bagh massacre of 1919.

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 6, 2005 5:03 AM
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The story is an overestimation. Currently, Prez.Musharaff is too powerful and democratic forces in Pakistan too weak to topple the President.

Prez.Musharaff will surive in the office as long George Bush is the President of the USA. After Bush, it is unlikely that the next US President will shake hand with Musharaff, particularly if he is a democrat. Had John Kerry won the presidential election, Musharaff must have gone by December 31st. He survived because Bush survived.

But you never know since politics is the most unpredictable game.

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 6, 2005 5:57 AM
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Opposition parties! Take a sensible direction. Six years are too long to gather your act and understand the machinations of establishment. If generals are murderers of constitution and democracy in country, opposition parties 'll be remembered for their inability to launch a civilian
resistence, with larger long term objectives and above all petty partisan interests.

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 6, 2005 7:21 AM
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POST # 8 MR.KUMAR!

Thanks but no thanks for the advice to move to Pakistan from Canada because I only listen to my parents and not every stranger so don't waste your time and energy and keep it for your country.......
Secondly, living in Canada does not mean I have lost my Pakistani identity. You people from India do so but not we Pakistani...With our dual nationality we keep both.
Thirdly, I have written again and again that all these systems are not mentioned in Koran, Geeta or Bible, these are all hand made by humans for humans. Pakistan has suffered so much through the hands of civil leaders under the name of democracy that we lost half of our country, we are well off with dictatorship. Military is better even if they mess but do little by little unlike civil leaders who swallow in one grump...........Oooops!

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Re: Opposition Takes Crucial Step to Dump the Islam Karimov of Pakistan Posted: Sep 6, 2005 7:25 AM
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#18 SHAFIQ KHAN

Pakistan has suffered so much through the hands of civil leaders under the name of democracy that we lost half of our country, we are well off with dictatorship

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