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Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 25, 2005 12:15 PM
 
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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 25, 2005 12:47 PM
 
if there is an iota of manly decency and family shame left in mr. Mushrraf he will either:

APOLOGIZE to the women -- especially to the RAPE VICTIM women -- of Pakistan ........OR ....RESIGN.... for his unacceptably crude and crass behavior

no ifs and buts....

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 25, 2005 1:35 PM
 
The writer Capt. Retired Ayaz Ammer is not only a descent man; but knows how to convince the people. Once he he had been admirer of Mian Nawaz Shareef, the intellectual and Phajee de Paye fame world leader. Hence, we have no weak reason to reject his view straight way.

I agree that General Musharraf is not an ideal personality, but is lesser rasputin as compared to General Rani fame Yehyeha, Hypocrate Genaral Zia & Hameed Gul, obviously corrupt General Ashraf Qazi and many more.

If we place negeative points of General Musharraf on one side; it is my strong opinion and firm belief that he will be blessed and admired in future because of his three noble jobs.

1. Kicking out and belting the dirty punjabi CSP and PCS bureaucratic class; which had been looting the country since late 50s. Now their efforts to creat Sindhu desh, Pakhtoonistan, Greater Baluchistan and Saraikistan will become weaker, because devolution system has kicked them out almost 60%.

2. The General has lifted restriction over media and we are now free to abuse him at any forum. This was never happened during the alternative governments of the democratic champions like Nawaz Shareef and Mohterma Benazeer Zardari Sahiba.

3. The General has increased education budget and opened the doors of higher education scholarships to the poor intellectuals unlike the era of democracy. Although, grant of scholarships to the childrens of poors is pinching to the feudals in government as well as opposition, most of the MNAs, MPAs, CSP and PCS buraucrates who used to prefer to get the scholarships expired if their third class childrens would not be of the age and educational level. Even the toti Prodessor Hood Bhaai like western agents are also opposing General Musharraf`s educational progrm as well as Dr.Ata-ur-Rehman being jalous. They have been succeeded to slow the program by their negative propaganda.


Hence, I am strong supporter of the General Musharraf, when I see his historical steps.. At least he is better than Mian Nawaz ITTEFAQ GROUP WALA, AEER-UL-RAFEE-LUL MOMINEENEEN ZIA--HAQ and Akhtar Ab-du-Rehman type stinger missile and atomic smugglers and hypocrates.

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 25, 2005 1:52 PM
 
Editor
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Sir:

For once Mr. Ayaz Amir was sober when he wrote his column under discussion here. This time, for a change, Mr. Amir is not pontificating and his writing makes sense. A very good essay.

2. We have a problem with the unread Generalismo's verbosity which the man practices in the presence of the many sychophants he has collected around himself. Whenever he speaks, he thinks he is addressing his Sipahis. His comments to the Washington Post were disgusting and in very bad taste. Somehow he has to be told that a smart man talks less, and hires people who are smarter than himself to do the talking. Ayaz Amir may have just done that. It is about time!

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 25, 2005 3:57 PM
 
“ 6 years of un-checked power being enough to turn anyone’s Head ”

This is very true in case of General Musharraf . His mission is not to serve the country
( like all priors PMs + Politicians and all Generals ) but to serve himself , to get power &
to make money good enough for all coming generations .

He is using all his intellect and all his faculties to make money and to keep himself in the office
As president , all other issues are auxillary matters , who cares about pakistani people / women & men
Or Kashmeer issue .

At the same time General Musharraf knows very well , Musharraf is just like a DISPOSABLE OBJECT , throw away after use and take the next one , New & Fresh . The time is approching ……

It was again very noticable during recent shake-hand with PM Manmohan Singh ,

Manmohan Singh extending his hand towards general Musharraf and looking right towards the face of General Musharraf while General Musharraf extending his hand towards Manmohan Singh and looking righ in the Camera by turning his head towards his right shoulder ????????

- General Musharraf , a Product of Guns , Power , Money but Disposable object
- Manmohan Singh , a humble servant of indian people , No power , no money but respect & a symbol of Democracy

General Musharraf is in Hurry to take decisions , any decision , 6 years experience of un-checked Power
and knowing being disposable-object .

But

Manmohan Singh prefers democratic process for taking any possible decision – Long Democratic experience

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Majid Ansari
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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 25, 2005 5:52 PM
 
Man, Musharraf is really losing his marbles.....

Read this...

http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/25mush.htm

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 25, 2005 6:33 PM
 
Editor
South Asia Tribune
Sir:
I have one more thought to add to my posting No. 04. The SAT headline given to Mr. Ayaz Amir's essay under discussion here ("Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance") is neither fair nor correct.

General Musharraf loves his own voice and his Armani suits, bought by the bushel, (and suffers from a Narcissus complex) but he has not lost his balance yet, thank God. If he had 'lost his balance', Pakistans' representative at the International Atomic Energy Agency???s (IAEA) governing board meeting in Vienna yesterday, would have wilted under diplomatic pressure, and voted against Pakistan's national interest like the Indian delegate did, who voted for action against Iran.
Ahmed Sheikh
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Tel: 202-637-9212

[Edited by: admin on Oct 5, 2005 11:47 PM]

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 26, 2005 7:22 AM
 
Post #3,
Why is it necessary to bring Nawaz Sharif, Benazir Bhutto and all others just to glorify Musharif and prove his superhuman qualities?
As Nasah says again and again, only decent way for Mush is to apologise.
Apart from this, we all should be concerned about our country, provided what kind of person is presiding over
this dictatorial regime. From Kargil to all these seven years in power show a man incapable of understanding how the world outside Pakistan works. (Note:- it does not work
as Mush is running Pak). Otherwise he would not have made a clown out of him in US as this article by Ayaz Amir aptly shows.

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 26, 2005 11:57 AM
 
India voted against Iran in the name of "NATIONAL INTEREST" --if this is what constitutes a state of being a mental midget (as per this comical author and inventor of other Khalistani gaalis such as Popinjay, etc.) then what would a Pakistani usurper ruler's following mental state be called:

a. Musharraf's dumping of fellow muslim (ummmah) Taliban at one phone call by Colin Powell (wasn't it national interest then...)

b. Musharraf's ambiguous stance in UN over US attack on Iraq

c. Musharraf calling mothers and sisters of Pakistani nation as prostitutes if they want to preserve their honor, thus giving open season to current and ex-military wallahs to rape them. (maybe this is also in name of national interest...)

d. Dumping of 50 yr. old Pakistani position on Israel, and UN resolutions on Kashmir (justified in name of national interest...)

e. Taking a position of "ABSTAINED" in IAEA resolution(which comical Sheikh so proudly calls as a chest thumping position of courage) is really position of a "Dalal (pimp)". This way a Dalal pretends to stay in good books of both sides, waits to see which way the wind is blowing and then tries to reap benefits this way or that way. Courage is when you take a position one way or the other and live with the consequences.

[Edited by: admin on Oct 5, 2005 11:50 PM]

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 26, 2005 4:51 PM
 
DELETED: STAY ON THE SUBJECT PLEASE

[Edited by: admin on Oct 5, 2005 11:52 PM]

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 26, 2005 8:44 PM
 
Musharraf is considered to be an eloquent person who does his homework well before he lands in USA. His position on Iran in IAEA strengthens this perception about Musharraf. He is considered to be a master strategist, very organized and weighs the pros and cons of a certain issue before making a statement. Recently, we heard terms like trend-setter associated with him.

His statement regarding rape and money in Pakistan are outrageous and stupid. These statements are not expected from an ordinary Pakistani, let alone the Head of State.

Now if we go back and see how Musharraf has handled the past episodes, there are some disturbing trends about Musharraf making outrageous statements deliberately. First, he handled the A Q Khan episode ruthlessly by abducting the scientists for investigation. That created outrage and anger within Pakistan. That episode ended with A Q Khan apologizing infront of the whole nation and Musharraf pardoning him in the end.

Then came the Baluchistan episode. Here Musharraf again created anger and outrage by threatening the Baluchis of serious consequences if they didnot resist from armed struggle. That made the situation worse and the politicians had to come up with some ideas and solutions how to settle down the angry Baluchis.

Musharraf continues this trend of giving outrageous statements. In other words he has a habit of creating debate and anger on a certain issue before making some hard decisions on controversial issues. I dont see how he will handle the anger created by this statement. Nevertheless, Musharraf continues with his habit of living at the edge.

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 27, 2005 12:01 AM
 
It's very easy to take a position in line with the will of the powerful, like Mush did on phone call and like your mother India did in IAEA meeting (might be she also got some phone call from Bush. In case of Afghanistan she was offering to do everything even without a phone call. You have still to show courage going against some super power (like Pakistan did against USSR) and then you will know how to live (like men) with the consequences.

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 27, 2005 3:20 AM
 
Post#22
You are right Digisha; we are just a herd of people with no clear goal, vision or purpose.
Since 1947 the khakis have acted as pimps and have been offering Pakistan to Uncle Sam and associates.
It’s so pathetic to note that the 3 major groups (Mullah, Military and Feudals) which opposed the creation of Pakistan and were never involved in the struggle of independence are now eating its fruits.
Look in Punjab, the Choudhries, who were their ancestors? The same people who celebrated the Jubilee of Queen.
Who is Fazlu? his ancestors were also against Pakistan and now he is enjoying the luxuries.
And look at our ever retreating Generals, the have no shame and no honor. They are like vultures or leeches to be precise, sucking the blood of Pakistan for the last 50 years.
Although I am of a Paki origin but I must admit that it has been Indian leaders and Generals who had been truly guarding her "national interests"

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 27, 2005 3:22 AM
 
In case of escalation , Will General Musharraf Allow
World Army Forces under UNO umbrella to use Pakistan
Air Basis and pakistan Ground to launch any ground
and Air Attacks on IRAN ?

General Musharraf might have already given his
assurances and might have done already the Money-bargain
with certain countries for all this as the preliminary
preparations might have started already and the first
payments might have been recived in early summer 2005 .

Does it make any difference to refrain from casting Vote
or to vote against ?????????????????

at the end of the day , both India and Pakistan are
standings on the same side of the line , fighting
against Iran , each one for her Own interest & gain .

RIGHT or WRONG ?

Economic demand of the time just like animals , in
search of Green grass , animals move from one region
to another region , birds do the same and humanbeings
had been doing the same . Our History is proof .

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Re: Blundering Musharraf Beginning to Lose His Balance Posted: Sep 30, 2005 2:33 AM
 
Ayaz Amir has written an extremely honest and correct account of Musharraf. Bravo.

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