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Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 3:13 AM
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Sohail Qureshi
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 4:27 AM
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Excellent report Mr. Editor, the days for these corrupt people are numbered but the tragic part of the story is that, all the persons involved in the scams excluding Musharraf are enjoying foreign nationalities and little could be done against them in the process of accountability if it will carried in future. "janay kiss jurm ki pai haay Saza Yaad nahee" - Sagir Siddique

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Col. Riaz Jafri (Retd)
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 4:58 AM
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What a bunkum of a report. Sehbai, you will have to do better and come out with with some real investigative reporting, supported by facts and figures. Not, just selling your pen for dimes and nickles, you know for who. And, Mr. Suhail Qureshi, could I know which Foreign Nationality General Musharraf is holding? Or is it just one of those woozy wonky statements of an ignorant trying to catch cheap attention?

Col. Jafri (Retd)

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Javed Malik
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 5:29 AM
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-Sehbai Sb,

I have no love for Dr.Ashraf but seeing you deteriorting from one of finest journalist from Paksitan to now being a sole prpoandist is very sad. NCHD is very skechy project but if you had any thing against it , it should have a real professional basis. There is no refrecne of any independent evaluation reports of World Bank and other donors which they conducted in last few years, no mention of NCHD and Pakistan's develop priorties and just an amount given to a Qaqal party in US are only basis for the story...what is it? I guess it is again a power rangling between Pakistani unsatisfied and insecure lobby in US, some of whome are perhaps your sole donors..

Best

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junaid iftikhar
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 6:51 AM
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something which can never be measured against verifiable performance.
My question to editor.
all u published,Can u challange it in any court of law in Pakistan or anywhere?
Evidence is laking here.

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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 8:50 AM
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"Evidence is laking here." -- indeed evidence is the ONE thing that is evidently lacking in that jungle of jarring jargons -- erected by Mushrraf's court physician Dr. Naseem Ashraf -- whose aims and goals of NHCD sound more in jest from a court jester -- than serious remedies from a court physician....

....for example for one -- one would like to know how many 'business incubators' Dr. Ashraf purchased under his 'Hollistic' purchasing program -- and how much he spent on them -- and in which 'government line departments' he has installed them?.......

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Aijaz
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 9:13 AM
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I agree with Col Sahab. It is not a good piece of journalism. The facts presented arent substantiated with credible data. I for myself is damn sure that Arbab Raheem knows what it is. Dr. Nasim Ashraf has called on him more than once in CM House and obviously the discussion was on NCHD as reported in papers. There were a few more things in the report which I am forgetting now which werent true. Anyways, I felt so sorry to know that in criticism some people would forget the ethics of putting things in their true perspective. Sehbai Sahab, I want to tell you how people are replused. I was a fan of BBC's news and analysis. For years, I would not go to sleep before watching their news atleast twice a day. The day they covered American bombing of Afghanistan and their analysis of this very sorry event of the world history, I abhored it. Since then I have forgotten about BBC and its expertise of global journalism. With such reports pouring in, I am afraid I would not be coming back here for information. One advice, grow up. We Pakistanis have lost our world by such tendencies. Criticise but be genuine.

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SHAFIQ KHAN
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 9:38 AM
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Well guys, what else could you expect by Mr. Sehbai who from the very first day is built-in-hatred situation towards president Musharraf.............no one has lived forever and likewise one day Musharraf would also took off and than (let me predict) Mr. Sehbai would pack up from States or hand over his pen to someone else and embark for Pakistan in a hope to find something big in the ministry of information. Mr. Sehbai's personality is composed of TWO things:
[1] He is simply built-in-hatred and whatever writing is in personal grudge and jealousy of President Musharraf.
[2] He is just making a way in the future government after Musharraf.

Mr. sehbai's rise and set of the sun is only and only to find worms out of everything that exists in relations to president Musharraf.
I agree, Musharraf is not 100% correct and has not delivered goods as supposed to be in 6 years but I do agree that he did not involve himself in corruption and evil activities or taxed the government or public as others did in the past in Pakistan. Because of the quickly changing international situation, he was forced to involve in globalization instead of paying 100% attention towards national affairs.

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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 10:46 AM
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Refer to posts above. Can anyone who is supporting Musharraf and Dr Ashraf explain why a huge amount of 32 million dollars was given to one person to promote education and health, when Pakistan already has enough Govt departments to look after these sectors. And why has Dr Ashraf been reluctant to get his accounts audited by a Govt Auditor. Because he will find out the facts?

Some body mentioned the World Bank and other agencies reports. Where is the mention of these reports at the Commission web site. Why is there no picture of the 50,000 volunteers on the ground if they exist. Have anyone gone to the sites and seen what parallel education and health sector Dr Ashraf has created after spending millions. Is there any building he has built which he can show. It is all in the air and the money is in the pocket.

I salute Editor Sehbai for such a detailed and documented report. This is the pioneering job no other newspaper in Pakistan is doing. Once Musharraf and Ashraf go out of power, then everybody would jump in, I am sure.

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SHAFIQ KHAN
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 11:15 AM
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#9 Mr. Abdul Jabbar

What Mr. Sehbai has written, you are talking on the basis of that. How could Mr. Sehbai satisfy the readers that what he is writing is the truth and not the malice and propaganda. What Mr. Sehbai is writing is not naoozbillah verses of Qur'an that it's zer, zabar, pesh cannot be changed. I can write something agaist you any Jumma Khan and Chibbar Khan and could fake the statements and documents which no one could trace....do you want to bet?

Regarding saluting Mr. Sehbai, it's your choice whether you salute him or go even beyond that....this is your personal behavior, you do whatever you like.

When you are not prepared to accept that Mr. Sehbai is manipulating the things than how come you expect us(the supporter of Musharraf) to AGREE with Mr. Sehbai or you or his supporters?

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Bipin Kumar
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 11:23 AM
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As an Indian I am amused at the facts of the story. If President Musharraf gave away 2 billion to his friend for education and health, why cant the Press, the education and health ministries and other govt and NGOs monitor the progress of this project. But I see nobody is interested. Is it because no body wants to annoy Musharraf and his friend.

It is understandable that his friend does not want any government interference in his project. But why has he spent half of the money is creating a new infrastructure when a huge govt structure exists.

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Rishi Kapoor Desai
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 11:30 AM
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Wil someone comment on the facts reported in the story ignoring whatthe editor writes, thinks, wants or believes. Facts are there and will Musharraf supporters say something whether they approve of the 2 billion grant or not.

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SHAFIQ KHAN
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 12:23 PM
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POSTS 11 and 12

Dear Indian Friends,

Well, you guys see everything with the perspective of India and America. While as Pakistani society is totally different in the world. That's why sometimes we are at Number ONE and sometimes at Number TWO of the corrupt nations list. Our people are also 'do haath aagay' with the world. And please don't ask about Pakistani journalism.........all retired bureaocrats, diplomats, judges, businessmen, retired military officers and corrupt and opportunist people are in the field of journalism.

You guys are talking about Rs. 2 Billions and some one to explain..........my question to you is that Mr. Sehbai wrote a story and you believed it! What authenticity Mr. Sehbai has that what he is saying is the truth and only the truth? This is cutting edge technology age and you can make everything sitting at home.

Don't be serious, just read stories for the sake of entertainment.

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Irfan
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 12:28 PM
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Attention Mr. Shaheen Sehbai

Dont mind Mr. Sehbai , if what you have developed is a story you are a good writer but sincerely you lack evidence. Anyhow keep it up its your job ONE SIDED.
In Tribune I only find one sided.... BUT BIG STORIES but democratically you should not be stopped and THIS IS MUSHARAFF.

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

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Pursoo Gondal
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Re: Musharraf Engulfed in Biggest Emerging Financial Scandal of His Tenure Posted: Sep 12, 2005 1:21 PM
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Well,I beleieve the critics of the case developed by Mr.Sehbai have no cogent reasoning,except their reliance on the oft-repeated sentences of deficiency of evidence.What kind of evidence is required ,and for which of the purposes?Money has been paid,as it is evident in the records of the Finance Division,and the Auditor_General of Pakistan has not yet auditted the accounts:is there any doubt about this?all this is clear from the archives of the Govt records...these are undeniable facts.Now lets see and evaluate the part of the case relating to the expenditure of the moneys out of this fund.Can any of the critics who have just taken the case so lightly tell if he has ever seen any project of the said Commission?any single project?Where are the five lac workers?The Govt of Baluchistan has some 2 lac workers,and it is evident that they are visible everywhere.Do the workers employed by Dr.Nasim operate in the skies and perform their holistic duties there with the angels?What kind of the evidence is required,and what aspects need to be seen in particular reference to the evidentialregime?The proceedings in the Senate are very much on record,and the mysterious silence after the Senate had an uproar reflects there is some hanky panky.Again,why should the Auditor_General not be allowed to have an acces to the Accounts of the said Fund?He is a state functionary to watch if the public money has been used judiciously and in accordanc ewith the wish of the elected representatives of the people of Pakistan.He is the constitutional watchdog,and cant be prevented from what he is under constitutional obligation to do.Even defence expenses are auditted by his organisation...then why not that Fund of theholistic nature?Are the national security and the supreme national interest at stake,in case it is auditted and made to be discussed in Parliament?If not,then why not the people should have the right to have an access to the affairs of the Fund Managers?It is so simple an issue...the development ,rather holistic development dreamt of by Dr.Nasim,and translated into action by a mighty military dictator must be shared by all who must be benefited through this most sophisticated apparatus of the development_oriented philanthropy,or at the least,the core Pakistanis who were poised to to get the relief.Let me put it across the table :there is no doubt about the misappropriation of the said amount by the philanthropist and his mentor,and there is NO EVIDENCE AVAILABLE TO COUNTER AND ALLEVIATE THIS REALITY.

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