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New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 28, 2005 3:30 AM
 
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Saeed Lodhi
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 28, 2005 8:36 AM
 
A very intersting analysis as well as very good investigative work ..... more and more black sheeps like Ahmed Saeed should be exposed in front of public as well as brought to justice for exploiting the funds of tax payers.

A good job Mr. M T Butt and Mr. M A Siddiqui.

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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 28, 2005 2:49 PM
 
It is interesting to read this tussle between a chairman removed by a prime minister and a chairman being supported by the president. This appears to be a proxy war between the PM and the General.

Mr Kirmani has not yet made any impression as the "New" chairman. He is just following what has been left over by the previous chairman and either has no guts to correct the wrongs or has been intimidated by his connections and the picture of Mr Saeed sitting with General Musharraf.

Basically what has happened is that Mr Saeed has passed on the loaded trash can on Mr Kirmani's head and he will now carry it and will have to own what it contains.

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Irfan
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 29, 2005 3:09 PM
 
Yes there are lot of black sheeps in PIA .
Mr.Tariq Kirmani should be well aware what the following person can do to oust him:- The ones prominent on The IT sides.

1) Mr. Ikram Nadeem / DIT

2) Mr. Mashadi S N S Dept / AIMS

who are busy hatching politics aagainst The New Chairman.

The induction of during the tenure of Mr. Ahmed Saeed whose favourite guy Ikram Nadeem is the most highly paid person in PIA Rs. 4,50,000/ per month have shown no progress .
He has however given progress to his favourites like

MR. ATIF and MR . SHEZHAD who were given rapid promotions to GROUP IX and still existing where as boys who were given GROUP VII have been given Group V now.
The contradiction list of both are availble with us.
Mr. Mashadi as earlier informed is a close firend of DIT has also been given GROUP VIII.

One can judge well that the favourites have not been demoted , but the boys and girls who are working much harder and giving extra time are left with no choice but pushed aside to Group V.



Pakistan Zindabad

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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 29, 2005 10:32 PM
 
Excellent investigative report, as I had suggested to the new chairman in my previous comments on the subject until and unless Mr. Kirmani appoints professionals on positions which are grabbed by the colonel MAFIA he cannot survive. From the day first this Mafia has been trying to prove Mr. kirmani a failure there was a chain of delays the Mashhed bound flight was cancelled. Not one but 101 cases of proven sexual harrassment and X rated dialogues with serving airhostesses and the candidates are on record against Col (R) Ahsan Siddiq commonly known in PIA as Colonel ZANI. Every body in PIA knows when Col.(R) Ahsan was literally shunted out of his office of G.M. Flight Service by Army Monitoring team along with his aide Khurram Mukhtar , Manager scheduling. Where have those videos of Pearl Continental Hotel Peshawar vanished ? Lt. Col(R) Mehmood had influenced to appoint a very junior officer Senior Purser Masood Butt as Assistant manager at Islamabad, and another Jr.Purser Sohail Dar at Lahore to facilitate the Mafia in their illicit activities. At Peshawar Mr. Rashid has always been very cooperative.
There are reports (under investigation) that huge amount of VIAGRA was procured by PIA medical division and was supplied to Very Impotent Persons (VIPs)close to the Mafia's circle as a gift from PIA. I am not sure when NAB will wake up and Investigate these fine art briberies for cover up of exposed criminal activities.

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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 29, 2005 10:41 PM
 
Qurat ul Ain, you write with such confidence and in such details that it appears you are yourself somehow a victim of Colonel Zee or you have been in PiA or very close to PIA. Mr Kirmani has to investigate the big deals of multi-billion dollars first and then he may get some time to find out if ViPs in PIA used officially imported and supplied Vee drug.

If you have some first hand info about Col Zee or Drug Vee, please let us know through these Forums. You can still keep your identity under wraps but the details of deeds and misdeeds of the corrupt ViPs must come out.

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Qurat-Ul- Ain
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 30, 2005 2:16 AM
 
AJ Thanks for your compliments, our basic job is to guard the interests of females, we got close to PIA affairs when the activities of Col. Z were at its large and none was listening to the cry and some victims contacted us. Now again the sole bread runners of families more then 50 female flight attendants were forcibly retired at the age of 45 years, instead of absorbing them on ground assignments, if at all they were having signs of ageing on their faces after serving the flag carrier for decades in absolute abnormal /unnatural atmosphere in a pressurized cabin with frequent time zone changes adversely effecting their health. What a co incidence when there were sermons being delivered ensuring equality for the women on International Women day these ladies were being fired. With concerted efforts of some other women equal rights activists this blunt action was halted. The victims have been constantly contacting us with horrifying stories of sexual harassment & heinous activities. After removal from the position of GM flight services Col. Z had always been critical about the female flight attendants viewing them responsible for his removal in such an insulting way and always played a negative role in connivance with Lt. Col Mehmood . which eventually resulted in this in human discriminatory policy enforced. We have always requested the agencies to conduct an un biased investigation thru some God fearing officers against Col Z and other affairs bringing bad name not only to the organization but creating hatred for a fine respected force. We wish Mr. kirmani good luck.

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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 30, 2005 10:37 AM
 
I am disturbed to hear about Mr. Saeed who was a yaer ago was admired by Mr. Abdul Qadir Hassan in his columns for his integrity, honesty, efficiency.............. I think either Mr. Qadir hassan is ashort sighted journalist or he admired the man just because of his son who is a PIA employee as indicated by Mr. Hassan in his column in daily Jang.

I had regard for Malik Qadir Hassan which is no more in my heart. Let Mr Karmani work.I personally know that he is a thorough gentleman and a best selection by the government which is ousting corrupt and worst functioneries as they are being naked day to day.

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Irfan
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 31, 2005 11:11 AM
 
the latest event in aims when Mr. Ikram Nadeem was severely angry on a boy Mafooz , but imagine he never got angry with any of his favourites like Atif and Shezhad if they made any mistake .Is there anyone to ask them on what basis Atif , Shezhad and Mashadi have been given rapid promotions when DIT was fully aware that his PROTECTOR Mr. Ahmed Saeed was about to go. The DIT is well aware that he will also be rusticated anytime .
These guys have taken total control on AIMS but do you people think that they have shown any progress .
Syed Najam has been their patent to act as their incharge . Is there anyone to ask why several flights every month are UNCOVERED . What results have they brought when the system is AUTO. Why ?
Extra facilities and hatching conspiracy against the New Chairman Tariq Kirmani is evident in AIMS by these guys.
CURRENT DATA:

ALL ROUTES OF PEW BASE ARE MANUAL . ONLY 11 ROUTES OF LHR ARE AUTO AND 18 ROUTES OF PEW ARE AUTO. MORE CHANGES AND MODIFICATION AND FIXING OF FLIGHTS ARE DONE.

DIT is answerable ?

Pakistan Zindabad

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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: May 31, 2005 12:23 PM
 
Mr. Kirmani is practically blocked-off from receiving these information. I fully support the idea to expose these crooks however, we are missing out on one really shrewed person for some reason. He's Kamran Hasan , Director Marketing. Kamran S'b is very good at staying behind the scene and let other guys do his dirt work. Let's look into some items that he's done:

1. Convinced Nadeem Ikram (The Bill Gates of Pakistan; he should be made Minister IT!) that Abacus GDS business is good for PIA. This deal will cost PIA over $5M per year for no increase in business. Kamran S'b's cut: rumor has is it's about 15% of the deal


2. Kamran then had his girl friend Shazina become his point person running Abacus out of the Forum office

3. Kamram had Ahmed Saeed make his brother's Air Cargo company become general agent for all cargo agents out of Pakistan. His brother's business grew by 400% by doing nothing

4. Kamran then convinced the new CEO that all PIA revenue problem are either due to fuel cost or competition from small desi airlines like Aero Asia, AirBlue and Shaheen. What is ironic that Mr. Kirmanu fell for it. When Kamran mentioned the same thing to the PM during the Saeed firing meeting at ISB, the PM told him point blank that fuel cost was not unique to PIA and neither were local competition. He asked Kamran, what was his strategy ? He did not have one! PIA'd revenue s 7% comes from domestic and genius Kamran ( who has never worked in a field station or ever learned how to sell) things playing PRICE WAR will help solve his 93% of the problem

5. Kamran has setup Kirmani (not Nadeem ; nor the Faujis) by starting the fare ware. Tell me something, how reduced fare is going to help increase PIA revenue ?

6. The making the system AUTO idea is actually from Kamran but he's let crazy Nadim think that this is Nadim's idea. So Nadim is running around like a chicken-with-cut-off, and thinking he can do majic. No one bothers to define what AUTO means ? So they took off manual power of all the controllers under Kamran but so what difference did this make ?

We need to get rid of this entire GM/DIR level guys and then PIA will start on the right path to improve ?

I have an idea for usl, why not all of us start a sms campaign to Kirmani, Kamran, Nadim and company ? Let us show them that our views also count.

God Help us

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Irfan
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: Jun 1, 2005 4:34 AM
 
Sheryar i agree what you state. you are perfectly right. we have several evidence about Mr. Ikram Nadeem and Mr. Zubair Bhatty and how they manage to keep this system for their personal benefits.
None of the purchases were done without the consent of Ikram Nadeem and Zubair Bhatty followed.
The favourites i restate did all their work like Mr. Mashadi , Mr. Atif , Mr. Shezhad .
Why Capt Basharat is quiet and mum ? Any reason to it.
Why Rashid Khan a corrupt base incharge / PEW is changing styles ?
What politics are being hatched by Syed Najam Tariq in AIMS ?
Why Akber Wahaj was kicked and reverted ?
Akber Wahaj is well aware of everything , but he is highly timid .
How much loans has Mr. Ikram Nadeem taken ?
How did Nadeem Ikram purchased another bunglow ?
Why Ikram Nadeem gave promotion to his pets ( Atif Shezhad )to GRADE IX and Mashadi to Grade VIII , so by passing everyone ?
Why Najam keep stating that Tariq Kirmani is in their hands and sending a dozen girls to him will ease the situation.

LET ME ANNOUNCE THAT TARIQ KIRMANI IS A THORUGH GENTLEMAN . HE WILL DO THE BEST BUT I AM SURE HE WILL NOT SELL SHOES TO PIA.
MR. KIRMANI IS FULLY AWARE WHATS GOING ALL AROUND.

" DRACULA SAYS COUNT THE DAYS JAWAN "

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: Jun 10, 2005 1:50 PM
 
Dont worry buddies Mashadi is improving but when he can be a cheameleon i cannot promise , infact Najam I cant say but his statements are really surprising about his supreme boss .
Try to improove guys. If you are good with my airline I am with you people . Dont worry you will make your own ways.
Vision a standard declared by the Chairman was required much earlier but you are never too late.
Lets promise to work hard and eliminate corruption.
Mr .Kirmani is here listen to him and do what he says . This will help all of you.

Pakistan Zindabad














If you are good with the airline I am good but

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Irfan
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: Jun 10, 2005 2:01 PM
 
Janet Bibi, PEW base Airhostess,

Assalamoalikum

I hear you are performing your duties as a flight purser.

If you are going through tribune regularly i put you a question . " WHERE IS YOUR DEAR FATHERLY RASHID KHAN "
Gone in hibrnation.

Guys can email at vision@piac.com.pk .

Whats wrong and whats right let Mr. Tariq Kirmani decide.

Pakistan Zindabad

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Irfan
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: Jun 11, 2005 5:50 AM
 
Dont worry Mahfooz DIT Ikram Nadeem is worst when he closes his eyes , so dont let him ,but usually he keeps them closed .The decision will be taken by his pets.
Dont laugh you know them well " You are Right Dear " Atif and Shezhad .
Mashadi has already taken sleeping pills. He must be snoring in the corner.
When you are right keep cool . Noone can harm you. No one in this universe . Allah is up their to decide your fate.
He thinks better .
If you are at a mistake Just say SORRY to your boss .
I am sure he will listen , but try to be direct no one in between .

This matter will be promoted to Honourable Chaimran Tariq Kirmani if you feel unsafe and matter is resolved.
Work hard for PIA , The National Flag career. Love Pakistan Build Pakistan .
There are snakes within your sleeves even, just spray them out with

AYAT-UL-KURSI Allah will listen to you and will shwoer his bounties

Pakistan Zindabad

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Irfan
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Re: New PIA Chief Being Blackmailed by Ousted Chairman's Appointees Posted: Jun 11, 2005 6:09 AM
 
VERY SURPISED TO KNOW THAT TRAINING IN ATHENS COMPLETED LAST YEAR AND CERTIFICATES ARE BEING ISSUED AND DEVLIVERED THIS YEAR . YOU ARE FREE TO TAKE MORE TIME . NOONE TO CHECK .

WHAT AN EXCECUTION

CLAPS TO THE AIMS PEOPLE " THEY THINK BETTER THAN ANYONE "

PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

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